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Post by fastcarkid on Mar 12, 2015 16:47:44 GMT -7
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Post by zukicow67 on Mar 12, 2015 18:15:02 GMT -7
So much for the "we're not going to lay anyone off"... about 6 more from HO, 40 in Red Deer Canada including most of the dispatch and mechanics and most of Floresville USA Looks like the unsecured creditors are going to get paid out but no word on if shareholders will get anything
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Post by oilgashappy on Mar 12, 2015 19:44:15 GMT -7
This is it. I guess there is no chance of a counter-offer.
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Post by oilgashappy on Mar 12, 2015 23:19:59 GMT -7
In 26 e) it will result in the repayment of the Company’s secured debt, the validity and enforceability of which is currently being reviewed by the Monitor, and it is expected that all trade and unsecured payables of GASFRAC’s operating subsidiaries will be paid in full with the balance paid to the holders’ of the unsecured debentures of GESI (the “Bondholders”); and f) the amount paid to the Bondholders is higher under the Transaction than under the other bids received.
No mention of shareholder.
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Post by happy on Mar 13, 2015 4:04:55 GMT -7
I recommend people read the Court documents, also posted late yesterday. See paragraph 7 of Ms. Hill's affidavit. I note the closing sentence says: "The only party not currently contemplated to receive full payout are the subordinated unsecured debenture holders." Then read paragraphs 9 et seq. People can then draw their own conclusions but the outcome for shareholders seems clear if all or substantially all of the assets of the company are being sold as a result of the "very faourable offer" so called at paragraph 7 of Ms. Hill's affidavit.
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Post by cher on Mar 13, 2015 6:56:46 GMT -7
If the bondholders are not going to get full payment, then there is nothing left for stockholders plain and simple. The bondholders come before stockholders. Per Ms. Hill's Affidavit of 3/9/15: Item 7: ..."The only party not currently contemplated to receive full payment are the subordinated unsecured debenture holders." We are not even in the picture.
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Post by viprgtsr on Mar 13, 2015 7:30:52 GMT -7
If the bondholders are not going to get full payment, then there is nothing left for stockholders plain and simple. The bondholders come before stockholders. Per Ms. Hill's Affidavit of 3/9/15: Item 7: ..."The only party not currently contemplated to receive full payment are the subordinated unsecured debenture holders." We are not even in the picture. That's what it sounds like. Wow... this is painful. Balkany too! I cannot believe he lost so much. There has to be some sort of a side deal going on here...
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Post by zukicow67 on Mar 13, 2015 12:08:40 GMT -7
I think viprgtsr is right with side deals going on - something just seems "hinky" about the whole deal. With the amount of work lined up for Blackbrush and Chesapeake in the USA over the next couple months and the success with the EV well and the Ohio work... PNC extending the due dates, something just don't add up IMHO. Balkany must have known about the debt prior to purchasing so many stocks and changing out the board. Going into CCAA and Chapter 15, then Mark and Larry suddenly resigning from the board... hmmmmmmm. I went in "eyes wide open" and lost about 108K in before tax dollars. Probably not as much as some of you but to my situation, it's a lot! Really shakes my faith in these "leaders" of business! And still no rumors about who the purchaser is.
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Post by happy on Mar 25, 2015 7:17:49 GMT -7
Good morning everyone. Although I do not want anyone to get their hopes up, I recommend people read the two monitor's reports posted yesterday and, in particular, the 6th. Those of us who have been following the monitor's website posts know there are many documents under seal and that as a result their contents are unknown to us, for example, affidavits, agreements, etc. Although the 3rd report - and Ms. Hill's affidavit filed more or less contemporaneously with it - indicated that "substantially all of the Company's assets" were being sold pursuant to the asset purchase agreement, the 6th report may provide for shareholders a faint glimmer of hope. Please read paragraphs 7 and 12-26 and draw your own conclusions. But it may be that the references to "substantially all of the Company's assets" being referred to in the 3rd report and in other documents made known to us at that time, may have been limited to the Company's hard assets (i.e. fracking equipment) and may have excluded (or not included) its Intellectual Property. paragraphs 17, 18, & 22 are of particular interest in this regard. Other thoughts or insight most welcome.
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Post by fora182 on Mar 25, 2015 8:10:19 GMT -7
Thanks happy, Also from what I have gathered in legal terms "Substantially all of a company's assets" on a percentage basis could be 70% of it's gross assets.
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Post by happy on Mar 25, 2015 9:11:04 GMT -7
I expect you could be correct; context is everything, although I am curious why qualifiers like "physical" or "hard" were not used in documents filed earlier this month if my suspicions are proven accurate. Presumably, once the sale to Step is complete, the Monitor will report and we will know, definitively, what assets were sold to it.
One additional observation. The term "shareholder" has been noticeably absent from documents, for the most part, during the CCAA process. "Stakeholder", as others on this site have noted, is a very different term. But the blessed word shareholder actually appears in paragraph 14 of the 6th report. Wonderful to receive some acknowledgement of existence. Let's hope our existence continues.
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Post by snortdd on Mar 25, 2015 11:47:01 GMT -7
I think we might be "burying the lead" here. The most interesting and relevant information in these new documents seems to be the entry of Calfrac- with their "restructuring transaction". Apparently Calfrac desires to acquire what's left of the actual business (some equipment and the IP?, and some of the employees- in an effort to keep the company operational- and is effectively going to 'loan' GasFrac some equipment and some money in order to keep them functional and continue their operations until the RT is completed. Whatever additional monies are gained will be paid to the debenture holders, who will need to vote on the transaction. All very interesting, but probably of little value to shareholders in the end- unless their "restructuring transaction" includes a few pennies for us chumps (very doubtful, sorry).
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Post by glasairx on Mar 26, 2015 15:44:35 GMT -7
You're right there snortdd, unsecured people will not get even 1 penny per share. but what we can do is determine where everything goes and look at investing into those companies, if they are publicly traded.
someone will continue using this technology and i for one want to be invested in that company.
at some point ARC Financial Corp, who financed the start up of STEP, will look to go public with STEP, but if there is another company that has purchased equipment/patents then lets identify them and let everyone on here know
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Post by zukicow67 on Mar 26, 2015 17:32:37 GMT -7
I've been chatting with some of the guys at STEP and Calfrac, will keep you all posted if I hear anything! I needs to make up about a year and a half take home pay...
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Post by dipstick on Mar 26, 2015 17:40:14 GMT -7
thanks Zuk; would like to know why gasfrac did not get sales after a good start.............simply out of curiosity. I lost a bundle and took a wrath from the family
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